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Police Raid Outdoor Music Event
by Parker Pinette
Monday August 22, 2005 at 04:30 AM
ppinette@gmail.com
Numerous accounts from attendees of an outdoor electronic music event in Utah county indicate excessive force used by Sherrif and SWAT officers. A video has surfaced depicting officers dressed in full military fatigues raiding the main stage of the event. Local news stations side with police in initial reports.
Attendees of the outdoor electronic music event dubbed "Versus II" taking place the evening of Saturday, August 20th in the Diamond Fork area of Spanish Fork Canyon in Utah County arrived at the event with confidence that the concert organizers had obtained the proper permits and legal clearance to hold the event. Personal accounts available at the local electronic community websiteutrave.org paint a scene of police brutality and mayhem, many accounts bearing eyewitness to the forceful arrest of young girls.
Reports state that at approximately 11:30pm upwards of 90 officers, many wearing full camouflage gear, gathered from Sherrif and SWAT departments in surrounding areas stormed the previously peaceful gathering dedicated to music and dance. At least 1 helicopter was dispatched, along with large tranport vehicles designated for both officers and detainees. Numerous statements from attendees indicate excessive force being exerted by many officers. Inuries including mild to severe bruises and cuts have been reported by party goers as young as age 17.
The Utah County Sherrif's Office has expressed a long term vendetta against what they call "Rave" parties. Statements from the Sherrif's office as well as eyewitness accounts make it clear that this was a premeditated attack on the promoters and community supporting these events. While the Sherrif's office has stated that many drugs and pieces of paraphernalia were obtained, they fail to note how many of the 60+ citations were for drug violations. Many accounts indicate the majority of citations and arrests were for resisting arrest. The Sherrif's office states that the party was raided on the grounds of failure to obtain a mass gathering permit for an event hosting more than 250 attendees. Reports vary as to the number in attendance, estimation ranging from 250 to 1,400. Controversy exists as to whether a mass gathering permit was actually obtained, however, a Health Department permit was obtained, and hired security and emergency medical service personnel were on site.
Many eyewitness accounts indicate that officers singled out party goers attempting to document the events on camcorders, cameras and camera phones. Victims have claimed that officers knocked cameras out of the hands of the owner, even confiscating some. Luckily, one video has surfaced, and is quickly spreading across the internet, as well as being featured by at least one local news station. The video clearly displays a large number of officers dressed in full camouflage fatigues, some brandishing rifles. In the higher quality version of the video, which includes sound, it is apparent that the use of a taser was employed. While the video is somewhat unclear at times, the viewer can plainly see an officer atop a young girl fully subdued on the ground on her stomach; he swings on her at least twice, as more officers rush forward to manhandle the girl. It is clear that many others were subdued using similar levels of force.
Initial reports from local news stations side with the Sherrif's Office, one anchor calling the event a "drug party" without batting an eye. Reports tend to focus on the drugs and paraphernalia acquired by police, rather than the obvious violation of civil liberties reported by those in attendance and depicted by the amateur video, which has been provided to all major local news agencies.
Surprisingly, the local Fox News affiliate Fox 13 seemed to give the most unbiased report, stating that many attendees had reported excessive force, as well as showing the official media response from the Utah County Sherrif's Office. Clips of the previously mentioned video were also shown.
Other news agencies have gone along with the Sherrif's Office in painting a picture of drugs, guns, and sexual assault running rampant at electronic music events in general, and especially this one. KUTV Channel 2 News blatantly inferred that the hired security was merely in place to prevent the sale of drugs by anyone but the event organizers. All major reports restate the claim made by the Sherrif's department that a 17-year-old girl was found by officers to have overdosed on ecstasy, treated on site, then released to her parents.
Many attendees and members of the electronic music and dance community are organizing lawsuits against the Sherrif's Office. The ACLU has been contacted as well as many organizations dedicated to educating and protecting the electronic music community. Vigilant party goers are compiling evidence, including video and pictures of the event, as well as personal accounts and documentation of injuries inflicted by law enforcement.
Thank You from Seattle
by Devin Kelly
Monday August 22, 2005 at 10:42 AM
peopleofearth@hotmail.com Seattle, WA
I am writing this both as an indymedia activist in Seattle and as a DJ/promoter/partyer.
It is very important that this information be spread to other places. Nationally, the "rave" and dance music communities have been suffering from major infringements on their first amendment rights for some time now. It is only recently, however, that ravers have become really politicized.
Tragic events like these should serve to remind us all that no cultural group is beyond the reach of the police state. They should help create unity betwene often disparate groups of young people who have similar interests in the end. Please, support your local dance music community, particularly when it is being treated as it is in Utah.
This is good summary reportage.
www.p-o-e.org
REcall metro police on horses-stomping on us-antiwar protesters
by archers
Monday August 22, 2005 at 11:05 AM
gada.2004@3web.net
Just before the Iraq invasion ocurred, in good old Toronto, we attempted to vioce our concerns in front of the USA embassey--the metro police stromed our group with dozens of horses.Toronto set up barakads blocks away. Many protesters got stomped. Our Jewish Mayor--Lastmann--the biggest crook--smiled with glee. When the Jews are smiling--you know they are by their Israelie eyes. It is for Israel you are fighting for--assholes! Not a peep again from Toronto--the Jewish nogood city.Sad, none dares speak of the blight here and USA.
Sad
by Parker Pinette
Monday August 22, 2005 at 11:12 AM
I find it sad that you feel the need to associate this terrible turn of events with your own racist agenda. It's an atrocity that protesters were trampled by horses, as is the roughing-up of young raver girls. However, it is the opinion of this author and of the electronic dance music community that racism and social prejudices feed into and go hand in hand with the brutality witnessed in Utah Saturday night. Had the officers taken mere seconds to understand those they attacked, they would not have felt the need to exert such force. We, as citizens expect to be treated with the basic courtesies deserved by all human beings. Please show the same respect and courtesy when dealing with and referring to other social and racial groups.
new tactics
by jc
Monday August 22, 2005 at 11:41 AM
If this is how the police are going to treat civilians and youth culture then perhaps the kids should stop carrying drugs and alcohol and start carrying guns! Cops are are a cowardly lot and love to gang up on weaker adversaries. Shoot a few and watch them scatter!
Like a gun in your face?
by Scott Benton
Monday August 22, 2005 at 11:44 AM
skottfree@hotmail.com 435-232-5311
Well On the 20th of August 2005, I was attending an electronic music concert in Diamond Fork Canyon, just outside of Spanish Fork Utah. Around 11:45 P.M. I noticed a helicopter flying quite low with a spot light. It wasn't much longer after all of us noticed the helicopter that we saw full camo swat teams rush in from every side... It was like Iraq in Utah. Swat was surrounding the event with guns drawn and in an attack position. With in moments of seeing the first gun, swat jumped onto the main stage, guns pointed, and started screaming at the dj's. At this point I make my way to an officer to inquire about their reasoning for breaking up the event. Upon asking the officer their reasoning for entering the premises the officer raised the barrel of his gun and placed it no more that a foot away from my face and said , "Get the F*ck out of here!" At this point I turned around to witness an officer trying to grab a female in a red sweater. This female is screaming at the officer to not touch her. After about a minute of yelling and the girl continuously backing up, the officer took her to the ground in brute force!!! They were assaulting her. Her boyfriend stepped in and tried to pull the officer off of her. At this point I saw an attack dog released upon the male who was trying to pull the officer off the female. Then 4 more officers ran in and started attacking the male and a 2nd female. I witnessed people being attacked and harassed all around. I saw people's camera's being stolen and thrown on the ground by officers. I was even told by an officer that If I didn't stop taking pictures on my phone he would arrest me.. I have never witnessed anything like this.. Not even in my years of growing up in Oakland, California. I hope that someone from your office takes a look into this case... This is already national news amongst the electronic music scene! Thanks, Scott Benton 899 E Canyon Rd #4 Logan, Utah, 84321 435-232-5311
Xenon
by Xenon
Monday August 22, 2005 at 12:02 PM
eyeknow54@hotmail.com
Are we surprised? I am a 55 year old male, and I witnessed the 60s first hand. The Powers that Be do not want another 60s to happen again, and they will do the same as they did back then....Smash and Destroy! The Rave Scene has the potential to grow into another 60's/hippy/protest culture, and perhaps this event will politicize Ravers, instead of simply enjoying the music, much like we did at Rave-Ups, Be-Ins, Hootenanies, and Fillmore concerts. It's a damn shame that the same standards are not set for Monster truck Rallies, Football TailGate parties, Rodeos, and Toby Keith Concerts. With Cindy Sheeham standing her ground in Texas, these Rednecks are taking out their hatred toward the Counter-Culture, Anti-War people, Leftists, Liberals, and Constitutionalists., on defensless ravers, much like wolves do with a herd of deer. Go after these monsters legally, or else nothing will stop them. We are living in a bonified Police State, and now must we wait for another staged or actual terrorist attack to go into full blown Martial Law, where EVERYWHERE will lokk like this Rave in Utah?
An injury to one is an injury to all
by tkat
Monday August 22, 2005 at 12:28 PM
Please everyone keep in mind the state will use as much power as it can get away with. This was a legal money making gathering, that had hired professional security and had proper permits. This was not a protest, this was not a renegade event. This is a war, don't ever forget that this war is against our freedom.
video footage of the event
by ripley
Monday August 22, 2005 at 12:30 PM
QuickTime movie at 4.4 mebibytes
here is video footage of the event. fucked up.
looks like czechtek
by ripley
Monday August 22, 2005 at 12:34 PM
Forgot to say.. looks just like what happened at czechtek (http://www.czechtek.freetekno.org) , only the cops are much more armed and all camo'ed out. But the same shit just went down (sans dogs, but with lots more teargas I think) in czech republic.
http://en.policejnistat.cz/
Time to unite!
Xenon
by Xenon
Monday August 22, 2005 at 12:38 PM
eyeknow54@hotmail.com
It is the Mind Set that they are at War with too. The biggest threat to the Linear, Hive-Minded person is the Self-actuated hedonistic person. This is the same throughout history. The witches were burned and tortured because they ate psychedelics and could cure people of stomach ailments and hard childbirths with herbs. This was a direct threat to the State (Church), and they were eliminated. In the Rave case, as in so many other Non-Linear events, the Hivers (Drunks) cannot comprehend what Hippies. Ravers, Bohemians, Artists, Pot Smokers, Dancers, Gays, Lesbians, and ANti-War people think, so they respond like all good robots of the state do...VIOLENCE!!!!!
Dubyas War on American Youth
by DJ Paul Edge
Monday August 22, 2005 at 12:53 PM
You gotta read this
http://www.djpauledge.com/blog.php?id=106
media distraction
by Brian - Dundalk Ireland
Monday August 22, 2005 at 01:08 PM
Hi guys, I just can't help thinking that this is a deliberatly contrived distraction to take peoples attention away from Camp Casey and the declining popularity of your psycho mass murderer preznit .
The exact same tactic was use in london recently after the fake patsy bombings of 7/7 - where too many people were questioning the inconsistencies of the official police lies. I'm referrring to the murder of Jean De Menezes of course.
They hide one atrocity with another. Disgraceful.
I really think it's time for Bush and Blair to face the hangman.
PS shout to djpaul!! Love your site m8.
Xenon
by Xenon
Monday August 22, 2005 at 01:19 PM
Here's Mike Rivero's take, from whatreallyhappened.com:
"I know I am asking to get hacked by posting this, but people need to copy this locally and share it with everyone they know. Those do NOT look like police officers beating up on the kids. And a source inside the Utah government reports that this action was undertaken out of fear that the Rave would be used to rally support for the protest against Bush's Utah visit.
Is this enough? Need we wait to have another Kent State where American children are gunned down by other Americans in uniforms? Or can we finally see what this government has become?
Take a good look at this video. This is the image of the USA the rest of the world sees. This is the Neocon dream for America."
They probably wont shoot this time...
by poopdick
Monday August 22, 2005 at 01:48 PM
Sadly, if there is another Kent State style event, I fear it will be done with a more covered approach, like burning the venue down on top of us. Its pretty fucking shitty for musicians like me, when the cops scare people away, at every turn, from going out to do anything.
Fight these pigs
Justice for All
by can we shoot back yet?
Monday August 22, 2005 at 01:58 PM
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. -- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
MR
by PAUL ASTLEY
Monday August 22, 2005 at 02:01 PM
STRETCHYMAZZULA@HOTMAIL.COM Stoke-on-Trent UK
Wow, unbelievable. Iv seen some incredible things in my time, having lived though the 'criminal justice bill' in the UK in the 90's. That was a bill introduced in the twilight years of thatchers government to try and curb the spread of acid house culture over here. Created by the most despised government in living memory to address sensational press concerns and win a few votes from the anal right wing at the same time, people found a way around the bill in the end.
History shows that banning any cultural outlet for people (and this is only music remember) doesnt work, at best it drives people underground and leaves people without security/med staff (and usually a proper drug den). This isnt about illicit substances, its about peoples right to self expression and you americans should know this better than anyone. Instead you have your representatives running round like the taliban banning everything deemed ungodly, or immorral by Mr Bush in order to keep the relgious right happy.
I know this shouldnt really be about politics, but the whole situation seems rather similar to our 'criminal justice bill'. A bill that even set down in law what rave sounds like and it was discussed in the house of lords as though this evil scourge on society was gonna pull the country down. The bill wasnt policable in the end and life went on, people had wonderful, creative, unifying experiences and the world kept on turning fine.
We are all sitting here on our side of the pond knowing there is common sense out there in the states, we even watched your election results come in and despaired at Bushs' joy and dont get me wrong, im no hippy layabout, im a 30 year old electrician, mortgage paying father who goes likes to dance. Its scary to think that over there im potentially a criminal.
Revealing
by PuPP
Monday August 22, 2005 at 02:20 PM
mjharper712@hotmail.com
I'm only 43 but I also remember the peace and love movement of the 60s - Make Love - Not War.
Ravers are definitely a threat to mainstream society.
The bloodlines that rule the world seek to control all of our lives via their advertising venues and mind control devices like tv, radio, newspapers, magazines and even this internet.
It is up to each reader to reach deep inside and seperate the wheat from the chaff.
It seems that ravers pose a major threat of underground communication and gatherings. While I oppose some of the drugs consumed at Rave events, I encourage the youth to gather and to talk about things that matter in their lives.
Currently, America is bankrupt and has been taken over from within via the privately controlled federal reserve and by those in our government (who just happen to claim to be jews) and positions of power who have sold us out for their 30 pieces of silver.
To the one who mentioned jews, you are quite correct, but you are labeled an anti-semite, a racist or smeared for expressing your opinion on what you know to be true.
Here in So Calif, my congressman is a jew and both of my senators are jews. My governor and his wife are part of the bloodlines and it sure doesn't look like they care about the health and safety of their flock.
When you look into it, you shall see a cabal of Israel supporters in our govt and it helps you to understand why America is waging war in the Middle East.
Always ask yourself - WHO BENEFITS?
Getting back to the Rave event assault, it really all boils down to power and control - and obviously, TPTB didn't schedule that event.
The best thing any of us can do is to educate one another about what we learn and information that is suppressed in the MSM.
Applied Knowledge Is Power!
Ok, now who's got the tar and feathers?
puppstheories.com
WHY NOT NO DRUGS?
by WINETSKY
Monday August 22, 2005 at 02:43 PM
wineandsky@yahoo.com
the best wing of my family is deeply entrenched in the electronic music scene, and as i know a goal for alot of it's members is total freedom, what i don't understand is there insistance at provocation.
Drugs and drug use, whether it is marijuana or crack or ex. or whatever is incredible provocation for the authorities to crack down on ravers, electro musicians, etc.
i personally do not support any kind of drug use. although i am a liberal, a freedom seeker, an artist, etc. Drugs are for illness and sacred ceremonies.
why don't the electropromoters promote no drugs at their parties. then the feds or whoever won't be able to use that favorite excuse as a cause to invade.
I'm sure there's plenty of dope at reborn evangelical christian events, but because they promote certain governmentally upheld values they don't get busted.
who would it hurt to promote no drugs or keep this party jumpin' don't bring your drugs....
Xenon
by Xenon
Monday August 22, 2005 at 02:47 PM
To Pupp,
I agree with just about all you say. The drugs consummed which are hazardous to your creative and intelligent self would be alcohol, meth, and cocaine. Dangerous drugs.
XTC, pot, mushrooms.......These are dangerous only to the status quo, or if consummed too much.
Zionists...........Controlling the US Military right now. Does Sharon have pictures of GW Bush screwing Jeff Gannon?
I see you mention chemtrails at your site. Very good.
Here's the biggest CT site on the planet.
Come on over.
chemtrailcentral.com
Welcome to the NWO
by Billy
Monday August 22, 2005 at 02:49 PM
More and more of these incidents are occurring each and every day. And it will NOT stop. It is only going to get WORSE!
Only WE can stop this. WE have to make it clear to those in "power" that they work for US, not the other way around. If they do not do what we instruct them to do they are fired. If they do not believe they are fired then we must turn our backs on them and walk away.
The only way to stop this is for everyone to stop being involved with these people. The people in government and in the police departments are OUR employees. If you owned a company where your employees kicked your ass on a regular basis, would you not fire them???? Of course you would and this is NO different. People have to wakeup and stop being afraid of their own employees. Don't let them get away with this crap any longer, FIRE THEIR ASSES!
www.whatreallyhappened.com
Idiots
by Goldstein
Monday August 22, 2005 at 03:18 PM
"17-year-old girl was found by officers to have overdosed on ecstasy, treated on site, then released to her parents" - since when do you treat xtc overdose on site?
you don't
by Parker Pinette
Monday August 22, 2005 at 03:34 PM
You don't treat an ecstasy overdose on site. In fact, you don't treat an ecstasy overdose, simply because you don't overdose on ecstasy. MDMA has not been proven to be toxic, even at high dosage. The danger lies in the array of other drugs and chemicals that "E" is often cut with. This goes even farther to deflate the claim that this mystery girl was treated on site - She doesn't know what extra drugs she injested with her ecstasy, therefore medical personnel do not know what to treat her for. Of course she must be taken to a hospital and monitored overnight.
This claim is not only false, but laughable. The Sherrif's Office needs to be notified of their error.
To Xenon
by PuPP
Monday August 22, 2005 at 03:47 PM
mjharper712@hotmail.com
Yes, the synthetic drugs and chemicals are much more harmful than the natural substances such as cannabis, mushrooms or even Salvia.
Is it any wonder that deadly substances such as alcohol or tobacco are legal and kill many thousands each year and yet, marijuana is illegal and no one ever dies from consuming too much of it?
Marijuana/hemp is a non lethal natural substance that has incredible properties and could help the planet.
Hemp replenishes the soil its grown in.
Hemp can replace trees for paper, lasting at least 4 times as long and requires less chemical bleaching.
Hemp can be used to make fuel, food or replace textiles like todays toxic paint varnish.
Hemp can help us once we remove the greedy ones from our governments, religions and controlling corporations.
I've never tried Ecstacy, but I've read that the biggest distributor of ecstacy in the world is Israel so to me that can't be a good thing.
I've also read that Israel controls our U.S.A. phone systems via a company called AMDOCS.
And I recall the 5 dancing Israelis on 9/11 celebrating the WTC disaster as they videotaped it.
While I am not against the jews and I despise racism, violence and hatred, it's a fact that many of those who claim to be jews rule America today. But they are not really jews.
"Israel controls the United States Senate." ~ Sen. William Fulbright
"The most effective component of the Jewish connection is probably that of media control." ~ Jewish American scholar Alfred M. Lilienthal
I believe that the true jews, those with love, empathy and compassion in their hearts have been used by those who rule today.
Our rulers are an elite bloodline group and they have been around for many centuries. They have conquered every nation that allowed them to prosper in.
As I said before, the best thing we can do is to educate one another and open venues like Indymedia provide a valuable service and I thank them for posting my words.
www.puppstheories.com
drugs?
by tkat
Monday August 22, 2005 at 03:51 PM
"Drugs and drug use, whether it is marijuana or crack or ex. or whatever is incredible provocation for the authorities to crack down on ravers, electro musicians, etc."
Um excuse me, the police can find drugs anywhere, drugs are their excuse, but they have been known to drop/plant drugs where there were none. So what are you saying that the police are justified for reacting to a provocation of potential drug use? It is like saying women are responsible for rape, if they wear suggestive clothing that might provoke or incite men?
"i personally do not support any kind of drug use. although i am a liberal, a freedom seeker, an artist, etc. Drugs are for illness and sacred ceremonies."
Um thanks for sharing, nothing like judgemental liberals and artists.
Seeded torrents of the video!
by pets_or_meat
Monday August 22, 2005 at 03:54 PM
Seeded torrents of the video can be found at these two sites ...
Look for the file: Fascism: Utah rave raid. http://torrentspy.com/default.asp and ... http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/
another torrent
by p2p friendly
Monday August 22, 2005 at 05:10 PM
This torrent contains both versions of the video.
indytorrents.org/torrents/utah_rave_raid.torrent?info_hash=ae63c5f4885000e9e2...
Argon
by Argon
Monday August 22, 2005 at 06:25 PM
Personally, I have not done Ecstasy since 1985, when it was still legal and was a pharmacutical. There's no way this can be toxic at even moderately high doses. I think you are correct in Israel channeling bogus X, much like they did in the 70s with LSD...Poison the supply, people freak out, and blame it on the drugs, which in their pure state, and non-toxic. BTW, I believe that mushrooms are more toxic on your body than synthetic psilocybin, but that's anoter story. I also tink the XTC "overdose" is a bogus story. She could have had Spped and alcohol also. And image the horror for people on mind-expanding and empathic substances, getting their heads busted. This is all part of the plan to strike fear in the most intelligent, and making the targets liberals and Constitutionalists, both from te left and the right. So Ravers and Militia people are equally hunted as Enemies of the State.
not american
by kaatd@yahoo.com
Monday August 22, 2005 at 06:42 PM
As Paul Astley noted, it's not an Amrican thing. Shure as hell, intolerance an religous lunacy are rampant in the US, but attacking and closing raves is not restricted to the US. Take a look at this: http://www.dance-a-delic.be/
It's in Belgium? I went to this festival 5 times and never, ever saw or heard about any problem whatsoever surrounding the festival. Yet it gets closed down. For no obvious reasan apart from the fact that they just want us to adhere to their lifestyle.
Sad really. In the UK The criminal Justice and public order act led to ravers, squaters and travellers untiting against the gov'ment. It's abou time targeted people in the US join hands and form a front against these right wing lunatics.
photos
by stonefruit
Monday August 22, 2005 at 06:53 PM
I captured photos from the video, available for viewing at http://stonefruit.blogspot.com/2005/08/all-your-drum-and-bass-are-belong-to.html
www.stonefruit.blogspot.com
Video Mirror
by Paganize
Monday August 22, 2005 at 08:25 PM
Paganize@gmail.com
I set up a mirror, and added a DivX version of the larger .MOV file, plus some stills. http://www.vrpro.net/freedom
www.vrpro.net/freedom
Excessive Force Not Warrented
by Christopher Contini
Monday August 22, 2005 at 11:46 PM
bumpheavy@yahoo.com
I do not condone nor condemn the use of drugs and/or alcohol at dance events such as the one raided by police forces in the aforementioned article. However, it is apparent that the actions carried out by US armed forces at the so-called "rave" were extreme and unnecessary. Kicking young women in the stomach and allowing police dogs to intimidate and in some cases attack other US citizens is an embarrassment to the law enforcement agencies that this country supports and relies on to keep the peace and maintain civility within our country. The people attacked that night were our own children and young adults - kicked and beaten by other US citizens with guns and dogs that are trained to maul other people...they are in fact trained to do just that. If this is how we treat our own children, can you imagine how US soldiers abroad treat so called "enemies" or citizens of other countries as we occupy and destroy other nations? It is as if we unleashed a group of trigger happy and emotionally underdeveloped teenagers on our own, UNARMED kids!
The fact of the matter is that the behaviors like those carried out by law enforcement officials that evening was inhumane, unjust, unnecessary, and wreaking of the kinds of behaviors that we condemn our "enemies" for. According to the Bush administration, one of the reasons we destroyed Iran was due to actions carried out against the citizens of Iran by their own undemocratic government. I am curious – do you think that I would receive that same reaction here at home if such actions were carried out against me by our own US troops? I am frightened at the thought of whether or not my fellow US citizens would come to my aide or support me if I was unjustly and violently attacked by law enforcement agents.
Would you?
No, you would not. This is not a free country. We are not governed by democracy, but by fear. Nomb Chompsky is right - freedom is not a right of the American people. It is a legacy left by those who fought each an every time our rights were jeopardize by those who sought to compromise the integrity of the Constitution of the United States. And it is written in our constitution (read it for yourself), and I paraphrase, that if our rights are threatened, it is OUR DUTY as US citizens to over throw the very government that threatens the rights articulated in that founding document.
You may write this off as a small instance – one that will blow over eventually. And for sure, it will. But what of the next…and the next...and the next?
Read the stories from the people that were there!
by Anonymous
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 01:49 AM
Local Utah County Swat Beat Down Innocent Ravers!! VIDEO!! Body:
Account told by Rodan from UTRAVE.org PLease read the following accounts adn take a serious look at out governments priorities: I have posted at the bottom of this page some links and facts about the war on drugs, the national budget, etc. that are worth ANY americans time--PEASE READ IT
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PLEASE forward this on to your friends as well. What happened last night CAN NOT be ignored. These are all first hand accounts of what went down. _______________________________________________
My account of the night of versus 2 is as follows:
I was standing behind the second stage watching a friend of mine play records. Everyone on the dance floor was talking or dancing to my friend’s Reggae / Ragga music he was playing. Everyone appeared to be having a good time.
Up on the hill I noticed some cars that had been stopped for some time and on top of one of the bigger cars I saw what looked like ambulance lights. I commented to my friend standing next to me that the vehicle over there looked like an ambulance. He jokingly said that it was a paddy wagon.
Ironically, he was right. That was a paddy wagon from the Utah National Guard. After a little while I saw flashlights coming toward us. I leaned over to my friend at my right and mentioned how I think the cops are here. I was pretty wrong since no longer than thirty seconds had passed when we had assault rifles pointed at us. I was standing there behind the DJ booth with my hands in my pockets when they started yelling at us. They told me to take my hands out of my pockets, which I did. Then they told me to just put my hands on my head. I did that. They told my DJ friend that he needed to shut the music off. After they had said that they turned around and started yelling at us again. They said that it was an Illegal party and that we needed to fill our car with people and go. Their rifles were still pointed at us. They asked us if this was our equipment at the booth, to which we replied no. They told us that they knew we had been drinking and if we were too drunk to drive to stay there. Then another armed officer told us that we needed to leave now.
We walked back to our car and saw groups of people being harassed and being told to leave. We kept walking to the car. I counted about 9 police trucks, an ambulance and a paddy wagon on our way out the gate.
This is my account of what happened. I heard a lot more happened to other people. I feel lucky to be one of those who didn’t go to jail. Didn’t have police dogs sent after them, and most of all, I’m glad I didn’t get tasered.
- Sean Liddell. - Jedi3.14@gmail.com ______________________________________________
Last night at 10:00 PM I arrived at a party in the Spanish Fork canyon. I was excited to be there to listen to the great electronic artists that had traveled for to play for the crowd.
Before coming to the event I researched it extensively. The party was %100 percent legal and legit with all permits and necessary security required by law being acquired. The event was well organized, with garbage cans, porta potties, and rope lines blocking off parts of the area that you could no go into.
Now I want you to know that many people out there consider ravers a bunch of drug taking freaks. I also want you to know that that is a stereotype that is passed down through legions of undereducated parents, politicians, and media. There are many of us who are drug free party goers who attend these events for a pure love of the music.
So on to my point. At around 11:00 I was enjoying the good vibes and great music. Then at about 11:30 pm a helicopter began circling the party. Out of nowhere huge semis filled with national guard, swat, and the police rolled up. Soldiers came out of the bushes and rushed down to the party. Carrying M-16s, Ak-47s, nightsticks, and tazers. They proceeded to attack random people and push their might around on people who had done nothing wrong.
I saw about 7 people attacked (before being forced to leave). I saw two of them right in front of me. One was a guy who was walking around with a camcorder stunned at what was happening. A soldier told him to give him the camera now. The raver said no it is my camera. The soldier then proceeded to grab the camera, throw it to the ground and then began beating the kid. In the end they threw him to the ground violently an put their knee into his back while handcuffing him. All for wanting to keep his property. When I last saw him he was knocked out and unmoving.
Another girl next to me said to one of the soldiers that she didn't know how to get home as they had just arrested her friend. The soldier told her to walk home. My friend tried to grab her to bring her with us, but the soldier began yelling that she had touched him (which she hadn't). WIthin seconds, five soldiers had jumped on her and were literally beating the crap out of this innocent women. She was punched in the face, thrown to the ground, and kicked while down. All for worrying how to get home safely. She is now suing.
The soldiers proceeded to attack anyone with cameras or camcorders, obviously wanting to restrict the film that got out about it. This was not a legal attack, it was a blatant violation on our rights as American citizens. And the swat, police, politicians who authorized this, and the national guard knew this. That is why they were removing potential evidence.
We were treated as terrorists, innocent kids without weapons or even violent thoughts in their minds were manhandled, treated like terrorists, and forced to stop doing what we were by constitutional rights allowed to be doing. Our rights were completely removed from us. It was if we had visited the 1960s or communist China. -Rodan
___________________________________________________ My name is Colby and this is my account of what happened at versus. In a large clearing a mile or so up Diamond Fork Canyon near Spanish Fork, Utah, there was an outdoor electronic music show. At approximately 11:30 PM, a helicopter with a spotlight made its first pass over the main stage. It came back and hovered over the confused crowd, as National Guardsmen in full camoflauge, helmets, boots, gas masks, and armed with assault rifles and dogs swarmed into the crowd. They first made their way onto the stage, grabbing people and forcing them onto the ground to handcuff them. I saw at least two people being beaten on the ground while barking, snarling dogs are held just a few feet from them. Weapons were being pointed at unarmed, peaceful civilians. A friend of mine was forced at gunpoint to put his hands on his head and turn around, because he asked if he could get his things from the tent. Tents were ripped open indiscriminately, and all belongings and bags were recklessly searched. I've heard accounts of people taking pictures, and when they refused to hand over the camera to the authorities, beaten or tasered. One sheriff said that "many people at the party had guns" and that there were "children in danger". The only guns I saw were the rifles held by soldiers, and the only children in danger were the people being wrongfully attacked by them. They say they shut it down because of drugs. Raves are not the only musical gatherings where drugs are used and distributed. The fact is that it was a premeditated strike, more likely motivated by a vendetta against raves stemming from Sequence Five (a previous outdoor party that the police did not have the manpower to shut down) than actually enforcing drug laws. ___________________________________________________ The Following is an Account of the Actions of the Night of August 20th 2005.
I arrived at the location for an outdoor electronic music event, at around 9:25 p.m. The First thing I noticed was the structure, and the layout of the site was very well organized. Markers were placed to prevent people from wandering off the designated paths. Wastebaskets and Trash recepticles were numerous. I was assured that the promoters had obtained 100% Legal Access to the land. All in all I was looking forward to a fun night with my friends, listening to music. I consider it like any other event ive gone to (Rock Concerts, Rap Concerts, etc.) The mood was festive, people were dancing and I could even smell the meat cooking from a grill.
At Around 11:39 p.m. I noticed a bright light in the sky to the North East, which I quickly realized was a Helicopter Search light, and I saw it circling over head. I assumed that the Helicopter was only there to scout us, make sure we weren't doing anything wrong, so I quickly dismissed it. However, it made 2 more passes and got substantially lower to the ground each time. At this time I heard a Woman next to me say "The Police Are Here, Everyone Has to Leave" Lots of people were disappointed, but noone was: rioting, fighting, or being insubordinate. People merely began to file towards their cars. At this time I actually got a look at my surroundings. Dozens of Men in Full Camo, Kevlar Vests, Gas Masks MP5 Navy's AUG's and many other fire-arms. Attack Dogs, were barking somewhere ahead of me. Suddenly I saw the sight that disgusted me. A person whom I had met before was on the ground face first, 4 Reservists had their guns pointed to his head, and were handcuffing him. Their attack dog was mauling his: Shoulder, Neck and Torso areas. I was quickly shuffled along but was very disgusted. I had attempted to record the man on the ground with my Camera-Phone, but a soldier approached me and took my phone and said "move Along" I still have not recovered it. I also was witness to the blunt beatings using shoulder rests of weapons. My friend Katie Mercer was hit in the side of the head with an MP5 because a soldier took her camera, and she was trying to recover it from him. I was witness to numerous people being held at gunpoint, people being handcuffed, Attack Dogs, Guns, Malice, Hatred.
This blatant over-use of force is not only un-moral, it is also ILLEGAL. At no time during the night did I see any person with:
-Firearms -Knives -Fireworks -Drugs
While it may be true that some individuals choose to take drugs at said events like this, Myself as well as many others choose to go for the music. Just like anything, you have bad apples, but you shouldn't cut down the tree. _________________________________________________
Last night was one of the worst nights of my life. I am still incredibly shaken up by what happened ....enough to the point of where I'm still having problems talking about it. So i will tell you my side in a few words then link you to a more detailed version of how Knick explains it .
I was playing in Salt Lake City about 1 hour away at a massive outdoor event. 700 presold tickets, and by 11:20, there were 1400 kids there already.... all in all total expected... 3 - 4k. This was an all drum and bass event, held on private land, with an amazing view of the mountains surrounding us. This event was fully contracted with the city. They had all permits, a huge insurance policy and they were paying taxes. you have to know this is because of what happened next. And in NO MEANS is this story exaggerated. word for word this is what happened.
It was 1145... i had 30 min before my set, so i was running around lookin at the mountains and the people dancing, laughing , the crazy visiuls they even had prjecting on the mountains. i will share photos once i can see them. All of the sudden a helicopter comes in with massive spot lights .. all on the people circling everyone ... and within minutes like out of some fuckin movie , soldiers with guns (fucking rifles )come in out of the grass, like some vietnam shit. The police in full riot gear come in, big trucks ... next thing you know they are throwing tear gas at people, setting dogs on people, arresting kids. 4 big guys on one dnb fan kicking him down tieing his hands .... making kids sit in the dirt with their hands tied all in a line, now you must remember in this whole time NO ONE was resisting arrest or making a big deal, everyone peaceful started to walk out... but yet they were throwin tear gas... it gets worst ... but whats even more fucked up is hundreds of kids on drugs driving home on the freeway while they were just in major trauma.
i still cant even figure out what the hell happened, the promoter called me to make sure me knick and spor were ok and i broke down crying.. couldnt breath, i was freaking out ..... why? Is this what our fuckin country has come to .... a point of someone making a fully legal show and STILL getting busted for WHAT?????? What did 3000 kids on private land in the mountains near NOTHIING .. do to ANYONE?
The promoters have a massive lawsuit and they have so much evidence against the county that its not even funny, I will be present to testify against these fuckin pigs. And if you think this matter is a joke then all i have to say is . I didnt belive it until i had gas thrown at me. I am going to make sure i keep you all posted on this, and let you know if theres a way any of you can help. -DJ SYZE -_________________________________________________ Alisha's account
This is my account of events that unfolded while attending an outdoor electronic music event. I arrived shortly before 9 pm sharp. My two friends and i set up camp and headed to the stage. All was well and peaceful enjoying the music to the full extent while dancing. Around 11:30pm or so i noticed a helicopter flying above the main stage of the event. At this point i am confused. The chopper began to come in closer to the stage with a search light focused on the crowd. I got nervous and still very confused and walked over to find my two friends I had arrived with earlier. Just as soon as i did that I looked over at my friend and asked "whats going on". That is when I was greeted by a man in full army attire, gas mask and all. He said to leave. I said what whats going on, at which point i was brutally attacked. Thrown to the ground and in the scuffle punched in the face by swat. That was not it either. I suppose i posed some a threat as another swat member rushed over to subdue me to the ground puting his knee in my back and arresting me. At that point I am screaming to a patron "whats going on?" He is just as confused as I am. At that point another swat member came over and kicked me in the leg. Let me tell you that I also only weigh 130 pounds. I had three grown men attack and beat me and throw me to ground for absolutely no reason at all. Not to mention being dragged to a van and violently being tossed in and taken to jail. Fined for resisting arrest and another outrageous charge. I do need to mention also that while this is all happening to me at the same time my two friends, a boy and girl were trying to reach out and stop them, at that point they were attacked and arrested as well.
That is my account. I have all the bruises to show. Our basic human rights were violated in a very bad way. We have to tell our story. Do all that you can and dont be afraid to speak up. ________________________________________________
Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.
So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...
At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.
The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.
No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.
Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..
- One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.
- The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.
- The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."
Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.
Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!
Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda.
This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?
This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULLSHIT!
The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.
I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work.
http://www.404audio.com/forum/image...s/icon_evil.gif
-Knick from Evol Intent
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GET THIS OUT IMMEDIATELY. This can NOT be left alone. Forward this to everyone you know.
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http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html
This is actual video footage!
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http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=20020
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PEOPLE!!! THese are our humin Rights!!! we're not just talking about a few kids getting their drugs stolen....WE are talking about police brutality, wrongful imprisonment, and complete INJUSTICE at the hands of our government.
This is the time for those of us with enough brains andawareness to SEE what is happening to our antion to do something.... We cannot sit idly by.... Stuff like this has happened before, and there were people in the 60's to stand up against an unjust government then...Don't let this one go.....
FUCK THIS GOVERNMENT! LIVING IN AMERICA IS SUPOSSED TO MEAN FREEDOM, SAFETY, AND JUSTICE!
NOT A FUCKING **POLICE STATE**
I am pissed. These are my friends and my crowd being torn down and punished...FUCK THAT
They've threatened my music--accussing the scene of nothing but drugs and public nuissance....Nothing could be worse.
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http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm
PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS SITE!!!! We throw away BILLIONS of dollars (over $600 per SECOND) in america to lock away drug users....While rapists and abusers walk free because we don't have the money to prosecute and protect the wive of abusers
"Mandatory minimums let rapists and murderers out of prison so that marijuana growers can do hard time. One statistic that Families Against Mandatory Minumums likes to point out is that the average sentence for manslaughter is 18 months, and the average sentence for non-violent drug offenses is *8 years*"
"ITS NOT A WAR ON DRUGS, ITS A WAR ON PERSONAL FREEDOMS
Euan Goodley
by Euan Goodley
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 02:10 AM
euangoodley@hotmail.com
this is unbelievble!!! Im from London in the uk and this kind of thing would never happen over here. I've been going to these supposed 'drug parties' for many years and believe me its a place for people to enjoy and dance to the music they love. Don't get me wrong parties over here get raided too, but there certainly aren't any equivelant swat involved waving guns in peoples faces!!! this is madness!! In terms of potential psychological damage to those involved, this could be immense!! I think the autorities in america need to calm down a little, stop being so paranoid and deal with any drug problems in a correct and sensible way using the correct drug intervention methods, not excessive force and scare tactics. Try and take heed of the way dutch and english authroities deal with theses type of situations!!!!
e KILLS
by Ally
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 07:23 AM
sungodessally@yahoo.com (607) 347 4559 Freeville NY
Hey, Extacy does KILL!!!
I had a miscarriage shortly after taking E at a new-years eve party December 31, 2000. It was because the emergent fetal spinal cord was destroyed by the chemical influance of the drug. It had nothing to do with what it was cut with. It had everything to do with the FACT that altering your mind with chemical substances is harmful weather it is legal or not.
Altering the state of mind is ultimately attractive, who wouldn't rather be anywhere that's not cold and boring, depressing and stupid? Who wouldn't rather feel every miniscule change in humidity and temperature, the scintillating tingle that emminates through your entire body with each tiny movement of the crowd?
But who would advocate a 13 week abortion in a pill you can take? A neural toxin targeted to the delecate formation of new nervious system targeted death for the unborn soul?>
Dont blame the drugs
by freeman
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 07:48 AM
You should have known better to take drugs when you're pregnant. What the hell is wrong with you? No one forced the drugs down your throat.
Dont blame the party, blame yourself for your own stupidity.
re: e KILLS & pregnancy
by TK
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 08:29 AM
Having taken numerous drugs in my lifetime, including painkillers such as ibuprofin, depressants like alcohol, stimulants like caffeine and nicotine.... and other drugs that the USDA continues to limit research on including Ecstasy and Marijuana, my thoughts are this:
Losing a fetus, especially if it was a planned birth, is very sad. But not taking the necissary precautions, like reading the back of the ibuprofin box before ingesting if you're pregnant or breastfeeding, is a pretty legitimate thing to do. You don't smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol when you're carrying a child, what under the sun possessed you to ingest a recreational drug if you were carrging?
If you really were pregnant, this should be a strong lesson towards researching *anything* that you ingest or expose yourself to during pregnancy. Blaming a drug for something that you had free will to choose is wrong - it's like blaming the gun that kills a child when someone, somewhere owned the gun and someone, somewhere pulled thr trigger. While losing a pregnancy is sad, your actions were to blame as much as the substance that you ingested.
If you weren't pregnant and were posting this in a reactionary way to try to scare people with false information - shame on you! Because the USDA has forbidden most experiments with Ecstasy and other "hard" drugs, there is little to no research on their effects on the human body, pregnant or not. It seems obvious that if you shouldn't drink or smoke when pregnant, you shouldn't do other drugs either. But that doesn't follow that Ecstacy will kill *anyone* who takes it. Drinking enough water will kill you if you get down to it.
The increasing use of drugs that are far worse than Ecstacy is on the rise, like herion and crack cocaine - if there was more effort by the USDA, the Federal Government and the population as a while spent on actually learning about these substances, and then actually distributing that knowledge to the population, there would be fewer cases of people doing dumb things: like ingesting combinations of drugs while pregnant.
My mother was a partier in the '70's. When she became pregnant she purged her body and ate healthy food during the longevity of the pregnancy and the breastfeeding cycle. I'm healthy, active, an honors student and award winning community member. Doing drugs doesn't kill unless you do them irresponsibly, just like anything else.
And doing drugs responsibly does make life more interesting, curious, energizing and generally fun. More fun than living in a perpetual state of fear of the unknown/
To get back to the pregnancy concern, think of it this way: friends shouldn't let friends do ecstacy while pregnant.
re: Read the stories from the people that were there!
by RiotGrrl
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 08:55 AM
Vermont
i am so sorry that this has happened. i have heard about the state of Utah, and how it's super conservative, but this is outrageous. i've been shooting video at political protests for several years and this is one of the most crazy examples of police suppression of free speech - confiscating cameras and assaulting people who were taking pictures? aren't people who are trained in SWAT supposed to know how disorienting their tactics are, especially if the people aren't actually breaking the law and don't even expect police to show up? i've been to several dance parties and my boyfriend has gone to a bunch of raves in the states and in europe. we've never heard of anything like this. i really hope that the police and army are forced to return all the cameras and videos to be used as evidence against them. at the Republican National Convention, i had a camera confiscated by the police, but they eventually gave me the camera and my tapes back - 7 months later. i had friends in NYC at the Republican Convention who had police stop them and demand that they delete all the pictures on ther phones, too. this kind of thing isn't new but it shouldn't be tolerated. it's "conservative" policies that are stealing our rights to real FREEDOM! i hope that the lawyers win, it looks like they really messed up in this case. good luck! fight the good fight!
Republican Voters
by sickofit
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:04 AM
matt23@aol.com
You a-holes that voted for Bush, hope you're happy watching this country turn into a police state.
Bad boyz
by orergonman
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:23 AM
vatoman22_5@yahoo.com
Fuck the police in Utah. Think before you act.. This shit would have never happen in Oregon or LA. Fuck mormon cops thinking that they can do whatever they want before thinking it through. Trying to protect thereCULT of a STATE. Wake up to the real world and suck a dick faggot COPS!!!
X
by J
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:24 AM
that's why I hate the U.S.A....just a big bunch of f***ing idiots (talking about the law enforcement parties here)....glad to be in the E.U....and still, those guys should bring theyr asses to court!
the fight against terrorism
by Paul
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:28 AM
I was always under the impression that the level of force an officer was allowed to use was only equal to the level of resistance met. What could a bunch of hippies listening to music in a field do to merit such an attack? Are drugs so evil that you should be aloud to interrupt a peaceful event with the threat of force?
If I am at a gathering that is attacked by armed forces I will not be restrained. I will do everything that is within my power to defend myself and those around me. If that means the use of force I will not hesitate.
Unfortunately the actions I recommend would have quickly turned that place into a blood bath. If I had been there the chances are good that I wouldn’t be alive today. I would consider that a small price to pay in the fight against terrorism.
I’ve never done drugs, and I voted for Bush.
Have you read the Bill of Rights lately?
by Controlled_by_pigs
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:55 AM
This was done by the Sheriff's office and local police, but they get their authority from the government. Thanks to the Bush Administration, you f*%k us a little bit more everyday. Our rights are eroding before our eyes. Just wait until another "Patriot Act" is passed. Who patrols the people that are responsible for patrolling us?
"Suprisingly Fox News"???
by Me
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:58 AM
What's with the "Suprisingly Fox News" bit? Fox news IS fair and balanced. Their motto is "We report, you decide." Which they do. Maybe now the author will realize this!
Mountain Meadows Massacre
by Paul Again
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 10:02 AM
I thought this story sound familiar... I saw it on the history channel. The called it the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
Wow these Utaians sure know how to chill a party.
for more info see... http://asms.k12.ar.us/armem/brondel/ http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/meadowscontents.htm
www.paulbillett.com
Pregnant?
by Colin Kavanagh
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 10:06 AM
djsoulfire@shaw.ca
That's really sad for you, but it has nothing to do with raves, and everything to do with you being stupid enough do drugs while you are pregnant. Feck.
That's Horrible
by Sirfrummel
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 10:09 AM
Well that sucks. That DJ was spinning some good tunes in the beginning of that movie.
Seriously though, that's kindof sad. For some reason the majority of people (specially in politics/law) are REALLY against electronic music, I think it's because they are against anything new, or that represents change, or something they may not understand.
www.sirfrummel.com
We give them the power.
by Paul Again
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 10:13 AM
"Who patrols the people that are responsible for patrolling us?"
That is our job. We give them the power.
It is our job to vote the fascists in Utah out and to physically resist their tyranny until we do.
Complying with unconstitutional and immoral laws is the same as endorsing them.
Unfortunately this has been going on for a long time, see my previous post.
multimedia
by Kelly
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 10:13 AM
texdesign000@yahoo.com
Recently a friend sent me this footage of a party in Utah. I got the chills when I saw army looking guys beating on small kids. The men were ganging up on kids whom were already knocked down. I’m from Detroit and been to many raves even played at them for a short while, and NEVER EVER has something that horrible has happened here in Detroit. It’s bad enough them kids are being deprived of missing out in culture that happened in the late 80’s, and them hunter type inbreed Utah law enforcement is keeping there state so behind. So they beat the kids because they never seen a live concert before. F-the system in Utah
kellyschliewe.com
Mizeyesis
by Mizeyesis
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 10:36 AM
jungalizt@hotmail.com
I can't believe people are focusing on drugs. WAKE UP!!! Drugs is a huge scapegoat. I have seen more rampant usage at hippy festivals than at raves so right there all of you who keep bringing up e and all that junk are putting out a useless argument. And note to all of you, they use e at hippy festivals, hip-hop concerts and rock concerts.
The point is invidivuals civil liberties were taken advantage of. As Americans I would hope that in the least bit would be outrageous to all of you and watching the nonsense that took place in the video would make you angry. F**k the drugs, drugs are everywhere, however what is wrong is the way those people were treated. Give me a break. And what is saddening is that many of you who are blind will wake up when you are on the frontline of something like this. Prevent future atrocities from occuring and stand up for yourselves.
End of rant...
arm ourselves
by madmax
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 10:39 AM
we should arm ourselves and fight back the damned fashists
here there and everywhere !!!
sideswipe
by Brian, Ireland.
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 11:29 AM
Hey, dont mind the drugs sideshow, they just beer swilling dis-info people.
"Drugs open people's minds, that's why they are illegal"
http://www.futurehi.net/index.html
The issue here is FASCISM. jack booted bush thugs beating up on kids, if they are too stupid to see that then there is no hope for them.
Burn the US Government - every last one of them. Then dismantle the Army and your nuclear weapons.
It's up to YOU and YOU.
PERMITS ?? Forest Service, or Utah County?
by skeptic
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 12:54 PM
specifically which permits - and from which agencies - were obtained by the event organizers?
Excellent
by Story
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 01:08 PM
honestly you did an excellent story on this. All the police see is nothing but drugs drugs drugs...those are the sour grapes what about the the good side where it was peaceful until the cops ransacked the place and started absusing people?. Why not do this to OZZFEST, WOODSTOCK all others?. Why is it illegal to gather on a private property land with as many people as you want? ISNT IT OUR DAMN FREEDOM TO DO AS WE PLEASE ON OUR OWN LAND!!! PRIVATE LAND!!!! YOU SHOULDNT NEED A PERMIT TO HOLD AS MANY PEOPLE ON YOUR LAND!!!
DRUGS ARE BAD FOR PREGNANT WOMEN AND WHEN ABUSED BY ANYONE ELSE
by common sense for "Ally"
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 03:14 PM
I hate to be too insensitive here especially if you're a real person, but are you STUPID??? If you're being serious, and I hope to Goddess you're not, then its probably better you don't breed at all. Exctasy while you're pregnant? Geee, I'm sure that kid would have turned out to be a real winner. I hope you washed the pill down with a couple shots and cigarettes. And I'm not antidrug in the least. I do however believe in RESPONSIBLE usage and recognizing the consequences of your actions both in your drug usage and every other factor of your life. I don't feel too bad saying this because you are most likely a govt. troll sent to monitor such disussions and throw in your own version of antidrug propaganda here and there to distract from the real issue which is the massive violence inflicted (yet again) by our government against its own citizens. The real issue here is the loss of what little bits of the Bill of Rights we have left as Bush/Fascism INC spreads its tentacles to tighten the noose around all our necks here in the US. We are now witnessing a similar rise of Fascism as we saw in Germany in the start of WWII. WTC/9/11was Bush's Rhiestag fire and the Project for a New American Century lays it all out in as simple terms as possible. http://www.newamericancentury.org
Resistance is your only option if you don't want to be yet another slave cog in the military machine of death. Educate and organize people cause we'll never beat them using their own tatics: VIOLENCE. The video, pics and personal accounts must get out and shame these bastards for the fascists they are. Reach out to people who wouldn't normally support your causes and find ways to make them see the injustice of what happened here. Build upon this and find you own way to resist corporate consumeristic culture. Save the fucking children already!
Fascism is here
by Ben Franklin
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 04:14 PM
Make no Mistake, I watched that video, fascism is here and the people of Utah need to be on notice, you now live under a fascist theocracy. The rest of America must prepare now for this is the model for the rest of us as the established order decays into more reactionary activitiies. Watch the video, these are military units. They beat a young girl, and stole property to cover up their activities. Make no mistake, fascism is here, be prepared to defend the Republic against reactionary wealth and theocracy.
ben franklin
I don't get it
by Me
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 04:38 PM
I don't get how it's bush's fault. It's shitty and state and local governemnts are getting way out of hand with their strong arm tactics, but go after the people responsible: the mayor of the town, the county commissioners, the sheriff, the governor. Going after bush will solve nothing.
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by 0
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 06:50 PM
Ok people , this is damn scary shit . why do we put up with this shit it has to stop don't you under stand this . I don't know what alse to say - perhaps this county is lost the people the hole thing . US solders attacking there own people it's started ( 1984 ) The time for debate has to end , PLEASE take Action NOW , This is no joke No simple comment but more a plea to all of you even the solders , the lines have been drowen , what side do - you - we - want to be on .
TAKE ACTION NOW !!!!!
blame canada
by sensible mcgee
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 06:50 PM
it doesn't surprise me that police would show up to a rave. everyone knows that drugs are sold and abused at raves. don't blame anything other than the fact that the whole rave "scene" has brought this on itself. most attending the rave don't have much of a brain left due to all the drug abuse, and they can't think for themselves. no matter how underground you want to be, when you're in america you must obey the law so why complain about that. good thing there is video though, because what is worse than a brain dead raver??? a trigger happy officer of the law. everyone should watch video footage of this event, though we don't know exactly why they're doing what they're doing, the police seem to have all gone into vietnam era flashbacks caused by the epileptic seizures induced by rave music. the moral of the story is: Don't go to a rave unless you want to be stereotyped truthfully into being a braindead, glowstick flailing, pacifier sucking nobody.
John
by John
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 08:14 PM
I have seen similar brutality in Sydney Australia raves, always politically geared. This type of violence exhibited by the law is sad, least to say, getting the army involved (probably x-Iraq tropps with nothing better to do) is a grosse misuse of the state's power.
blame the republicans
by Mundy
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:22 PM
It appalls me to read that people would be so ignorant to blame the "ravers” (and I suppose these same people would also blame rape victims “because they asked for it”). Yes, some people use drugs at electronic music events, but most of the people go to these events FOR THE MUSIC. The cops aka pigs had no right to use such force. They probably went home afterwards, beat their wives, jacked off to the thought of punching girls and called it a night. Those cops should go to jail. Enron executives should go to jail. Pat Robertson should be shown that the bible says not to kill others.
Republicans are the devil in disguise ( that is not a literal comment, I just mean they are the sinners and the ones who are evil). Who else would take away freedoms and say that it is for freedom? Who else would cut school programs for music and say that it is out of budget? Fuck your SUV, FUCK your diamonds, fuck your cheating selves. Go America
your dad
by me
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:29 PM
necr0philiac@yahoo.com
you probably dont vote either do you hippy?
ive been to many raves and would say half the people are not gettin intoxicated, that leaves the other half, well, you get the picture.
i bet you wont turn down a cop helping you out either when you really need it.
fuckin children and their biasness. you probably preach 'we are all one' too yet are bashing 'right wingers' and cops.....who, in fact, all are in the same race.
wickity wickity wack
by Damn them Fuzz
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 09:52 PM
Man, everyone knows Mormans don't rave.
That was wickity wickity wack
4 million pounds of explosives
by watchful eye
Tuesday August 23, 2005 at 11:14 PM
Earlier in August: " The material aboard a truck that blew up in Spanish Fork Canyon ...."
Ensign-Bickford employees melt a mixture of TNT and PETN, one of the strongest known high explosives. PETN - pentaerythritol tetranitrate - is used in some land mines and as the explosive core of detonation cord.
"We probably make at least 4 million pounds of explosives a year. Four to 5 million is a typical year," Bennett said
one and one equal two - major munitions plant is the reason for bust at event
read the article... it's got some fairly interesting items in it
http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2935182
Liberal With a Gun
by Jack the Dragon
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 03:40 AM
videathscytheiv@aol.com
All of you who are againsed George Bush's "NWO"...
All of YOU who wish to see the Fascisim STOP.
All of YOU who Believe that POT and PLANTS should NOT BE ILLEGAL.
All of YOU who BELIEVE THAT MAKING MUSIC AND PLAYING IT LIVE is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.
ALL OF YOU who DID NOT VOTE.
ALL OF YOU WHO DID VOTE BUT HAD YOUR VOTES THROWN OUT BY THE GREEDY FACIST REGIME...
BUY A GUN. You still can here. IT'S TIME FOR A REVOLUTION.
We need to OUST these people who shit on then wipe their ass with our BELOVED CONSTITUTION. THEY SHIT ON OUR HUMAN RIGHTS EACH DAY by passing RIDICOULOUS LAWS to CONTROL, and SUBDUE the RIGHT of EVERY AMERICAN.
LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PRUSIUT OF HAPPINESS.
Start by buying your rifles and shotguns at WALMART. Make SURE YOU BUY TONS OF AMMUNITION. The people need to REMOVE the FAILING Government so dependant upon CORRUPTION and LIES.
I am a LIBERAL. I am WILLING TO FIGHT AND DIE FOR FREEDOM. For Lady Liberty who looks so VIGILANT into the future... That WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE are tired of the 'freedom isn't free' attiude.
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.. IT'S A RIGHT.
And now we as AMERICANS who believe that Those in power are WRONG for .their constant RAPING of our individual right
Iraquis are NOT a THREAT.
Fat rich business men ARE.
Time to OVERTHROW the Powers that be.
No more voting.
Vote with a BULLET.
ONWARD my bretheren! Time to OUST these Right-Wing LIARS and CHEATERS from our SACRED land.
Texas should be big enough to hold all of them.
Leave the DEMOCRACY to the DEMOCRATS.
Let the LIBERALS have their LIBERTY.
And let the REPUBLICANS move to the REPUBLIC OF CHINA OR TEXAS!
Time for nonviolence is OVER.
Time to ACT.
Background on Raid Organizer
by Truth
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 04:08 AM
go to google to find ---------------------------------- DARREN GILBERT, C.P.S.
Darren Gilbert graduated from Executive Security International's Advanced Executive Protection Program in May of 2000 with a combination score of over 95%. He is currently working to develop a career in the executive protection business in Knoxville, Tennessee area.
Working for the Anderson County Juvenile Court as a Court Appointed Special Advocate, he investigates circumstances surrounding the abuse and neglect of children brought into the system and reports his findings to the court. As a sworn officer of the court, he has undergone an extensive background check. On many occasions, he has had to testify before the court. Darren also volunteers his time as a CPS to Safe Haven and several other women's shelters in the Knoxville area. He provides protective escorts for women traveling to and from court appearances, or to their homes to retrieve personal belongings.
Darren is a 4th Degree Black Belt in Isshin-ryu Karate and founded Gilbert's Isshin-ryu Dojo, a karate school in Clinton, Tennessee, in 1993. Over the past years, he has taught many women's self-defense seminars and worked with local law enforcement personnel on defensive tactics and the use of non-lethal force.
Darren served four years in the US Army. While stationed at Weisbaden Airbase in Germany, he served as the Battalion Executive Officer's driver and as a driver for the battalion's emergency Quick Reaction Force. During a tour at Camp Casey, South Korea, Darren participated on patrols into the DMZ to detect and deter North Korean infiltrators. He also deployed to Panama with a unit of the 101st Air Assault Division during a period of increased tension. While in Panama, he successfully completed the Jungle Warfare School. Mr. Gilbert has held a Top-Secret security clearance. Darren is a member of the American Society of Industrial Security and the National Sheriff's Association. He has been certified through the American Heart Association in CPR and BLS.
Raid on Rave
by Engy
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 05:50 AM
b_engelstad4@msn.com
They should arrest the psycho’s in the fatigues. I think they knew going in there that people where going to get arrested and Tazed.
Cops have a hard enough job, and these fools are making harder for the rest of them.
I guess they are fighting the war on terrorism, or wait, then, why are they at a rave?
Xenon
by Xenon
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 06:39 AM
The only good that may have come out of thi,s is Ravers and party people have become political activists overnight. You see the same thing in the mid 1960s. Groovy music quickly became protest music as the Vietnam War dragged on, and cops were smashing heads, and in the case of Kent State, killed 4 students. If we don't stop these Fascists now, that will be the next step.
As Frank Zappa once said, "All music is political"
I love it
by Michael
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 07:34 AM
I love watching you idiots blame the republicans for all of this. It makes me laugh because you obviously are the dumbest people on the planet. Billy Boy "I didn't Inhale" Clinton was the one who brought this type of drug war. You do remember your favorite cum spewer? He was the one who during his time as president increased the war on drugs to include these gestapo style tactics, it was during his "Liberal" admin that police were given access to military weapons and training, it was during his presidency that the laws against raving were made, but no lets all blame George W. and the evil repiblicans that's easier than actually knowing anything past the last 5 years. God you people make me sick. If you are all so stupid to think that only one side is trying to take your rights away and not see that both sides care nothing for you then you desreve everything that happens to you. EVERYTHING. Read this article from Fox News, thats right Fox news the news outlet you people seem to think is the arm of the evil republicans. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58663,00.html Follow the link and read the outrage by the right, AND look at who is trying to get new laws passed against ravers, it is not the EVIL REPUBLICANS MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH, it's you Jackass Democrats. This is why I laugh at you idiots and feel no sorrow for you when you get your heads cracked open. Stupidity should not be rewarded nor admired. Wake up people; if you run to the left like the herd you are then you will be treated like other herds. "If God did not want them to be sheared, he would not have made them sheep" Now please continue with your bleating.
85 Percent Plus Rotten Eggs
by Barrel Fish Shooter
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 10:56 AM
Sensible McGee,you don't understand the rave scene or people who are into that kind of music.It is certainly not what you slander them as being. Let us look at the police for a minute.Most police who have been in the force for more than 5 years are essentially mentally impaired to the point of being non functional in a normal society setting.They consist of a group of vendetta carrying weirdos,unloved,lonely,disrespected,unwanted,and this is largely the fault of the police themselves due to low i.q. levels,self serving reasons to become police officers("my dad was an asshole"etc.)witchcraft practising whack-jobs(vancouver police Canada)and so on. You take a look at a life time cop who won't retire because he doesn't have the ability to function like a regular human being anymore(outside the repugnant walls of law enforcement),and you are dealing with some profoundly disturbed worthless bum attempting to pass himself off as a citizen. A dangerous offender,if you will,would be the best way to describe these police freaks whose credo is the opposite of the law of diminishing returns.
No victims
by J to the T
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 11:24 AM
This is ridiculous. Who were these kids hurting? Why would these cops come to break up this party in riot gear unless they were expecting to use excessive force. I've been to raves. It was fun. They are nothing but peaceful gatherings. What a travesty to the rights of individuals to gather. I don't believe it is democrats or republicans in this instance but probably the Mormons pushing their "morals" on everyone else. That other commenter was right. Better go to Walmart and stock up on guns and ammo...
to: Michael the REPUBLICAN.
by Jack the Dragon
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 11:31 AM
Well.. If us liberals are at fault for the WAR ON DRUGS, why don't you go and live in TEXAS and SUCEED FROM THE UNION.
Fucking facist finger pointer.
Better yet.. Move to where it IS A REPUBLIC. Like COMMUNIST CHINA you fucking pinko son of a btitch.
Take a civics class, Jack
by Michael
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 11:44 AM
Well.. If us liberals are at fault for the WAR ON DRUGS, why don't you go and live in TEXAS and SUCEED FROM THE UNION. Fucking facist finger pointer. Better yet.. Move to where it IS A REPUBLIC. Like COMMUNIST CHINA you fucking pinko son of a btitch
Lol, god you twerps are funny. We are a republic Jackass, if you can remember how it goes try saying the Pledge, nevermind I wouldnt want you to have to think, I'll give you the highlight, "and to the Republic for which it stands" we have never been a Democracy...ever.....EVER. I wouldnt move to texas its too hot I like it here in NYC where I gets lots of chuckles from chuckleheads just like you. I'm gonna have some more fun now, now I can teach you the difference between politics and economics. Democracies and Republics are type of political thoughts. Communism and its opposite Capitalism are types of economic thought. You can have a capitalist democracy or republic you can have a communist democracy or republic, so when you accuse some one of being a Republican and that they should go to Communist China it truly shows your ignorance and makes me laugh that much more. I am a Capitalist always have been always will be AND I like our Republic. Also I like laughing at you. Oh and one more thing, Facism is different that either Democracy, Socialism, or Republicanism, may I suggest learning to read and then going to a Library and reading about how Facism came into being. That is after you take your head out of your ass. Meanwhile I will stay here in NY and laugh and laugh and laugh....
Waveos
by Puto
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 12:01 PM
Boycott Utah...DON"T SKI OR SNOWBOARD IN UTAH!!!!!
BOYCOTT UTAH!!!!! NO SKIING in Utah!!!! Hit'em where it hurts!!!! BOYCOTT UTAH!!!!! NO SKIING in Utah!!!! Hit'em where it hurts!!!! BOYCOTT UTAH!!!!! NO SKIING in Utah!!!! Hit'em where it hurts!!!! BOYCOTT UTAH!!!!! NO SKIING in Utah!!!! Hit'em where it hurts!!!! BOYCOTT UTAH!!!!! NO SKIING in Utah!!!! Hit'em where it hurts!!!! BOYCOTT UTAH!!!!! NO SKIING in Utah!!!! Hit'em where it hurts!!!! BOYCOTT UTAH!!!!! NO SKIING in Utah!!!! Hit'em where it hurts!!!!
not a rave
by Sixx
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 12:59 PM
lilsixx67@yahoo.com
Just to clear things up. this was not a rave, the rave act states a RAVE as an illegal gathering and or party. this was a permitted electronic music concert ( DJ CRAZE CD RELEASE TOUR ) not a RAVE
To: Michael (the "Republican")
by No Name
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 01:49 PM
Hey Michael, while you're telling people to learn how to read and how dumb they are, you're brutally misusing the English language, misspelling and using bad grammar. Also, your points carry no validity and are not representative of an informed source.
You don't need anyone else to make you look bad. You're doing a great job of that by yourself.
Suspicious
by the playa
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 02:00 PM
Practice for Burning Man?
Get Real Cops
by wavy ravey
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 02:05 PM
I'll bet there was waaay more drug consumption, sexual assault, firearms violations, drunk driving, and general debaucherous behaviour at the RNC than any rave ever thrown. The police need civilian oversight for their own protection. How do these guy sleep at night?
Utah thing
by Jason Beal
Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 03:08 PM
This is a Utah thing if I ever saw one. Utah county |