>nessie no longer joins us here
Because he has the honor and integrity not to dialog with racists and their supporters.To have perverted the word "racist" as it has, nessie is a Nazi, no doubt in my mind. As it had said itself, anything in the least pro Israel would be deleted.
I didn't post that
by nessie
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 11:08 AM
nessie@sfbg.com
It's a forgery.
For more about killing cats, click here:
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/1696078_comment.php
I'm my own Zionist trick
by nessie
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 02:36 PM
nessie@sfbg.com
both sides of my neck
by nessie •
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 09:23 PM
nessie@sfbg.com
what's peurile
by me
Monday July 05, 2004 at 11:58 PM
is the fact a supposed adult has its panties in a
wad over a pseudonym. Keep erasing, nessie. Show everyone you don't
have any balls. Show the world you think a pseudonym makes or breaks
you. Educate us all. Start today.
"panties . . . balls"
by pointer
Tuesday July 06, 2004 at 04:23 AM
See:
http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/1686416_comment.php#1686836
(snip)
Use of sexual terminology as insults
(snip)
* * *
and:
http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/14031_comment.php#14753
(snip)
>bitch . . . tits . . . faggot . . .
(snip)
2.) You went all over the IMC network portraying me as an
anti-Semite and you expect me to NOT to "moan" or "complain" or
"fuss"!?! What are you, stupid? You’re lucky you’re such a chickensh*t *sshole
as to say that stuff from the safety of the internet. If you ever
worked up enough spine to say it to my face I’d put your sorry *ss in traction in a New York minute, you vile, despicable scum.
See:
http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/1686416_comment.php#1686836
(snip)
Use of sexual terminology as insults
(snip)
See also,
by pointer
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 04:09 PM
this:
http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/14010_comment.php#14699
and this:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html
question for nessie/pointer
by nessie the violent
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 04:21 PM
Does nessie ever attack with ad hominems? Just wondering.
(1.) To use the word “bitch” in any other
context that the description of a female canine, is offensive. It’s is
also indicative of the kind of person you are.
You're an incredible fool. The phrase "to bitch" has been around
for umpteen years. Are you trying to redefine that for your own ends as
well, just as you try to redefine the word "racist", you impeccable
idiot?
(2.) You went all over the IMC network portraying me as an
anti-Semite and you expect me to NOT to "moan" or "complain" or
"fuss"!?! What are you, stupid? You’re lucky you’re such a chickensh*t
*sshole as to say that stuff from the safety of the internet. If you
ever worked up enough spine to say it to my face I’d put your sorry *ss
in traction in a New York minute, you vile, despicable scum.
You don't have the balls to do anything but lick the cock of
Arafat or bin Laden, you Appeasing little child. You've never been
nothing but a mouth, and have been consistently and without fail been
brutally knocked off your little perch every time you get on it. You're
a banty rooster, and when you're not crowing you're pecking the corn
out of shit. And ever since the attacks of September the 11th, you have
been in total fear of the Arabs, and have turned Nazi in order to
Appease them, and the IMC suffers for it..
Gutless and nutless and terrified out of your skull and
mentally ill. There's so much an Appeasing bastard like you has to
offer the IMC, right?
Expected different from an avowed liar?
by Critical Thinker
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 04:33 PM
In response to evil nessie's claims:
you people here in Utah may be surprised nessie is denying his protracted spamming, but I can assure you he has spammed multiple copies of a few messages on Indybay and Van-IMC. Perhaps he expects you not to believe he has spammed on the account that he's an editor, as if being an editor somehow offsets the offense of spamming. Furthermore, the spam that slanders him is more often than not in response to his own spam.
When this sorry excuse for an editor and a journalist slanders me, he expects you to not consider it as an attack on Indymedia and every participant. Surprise. And who will defend Indymedia from evil nessie's attacks?
What I earlier said of evil nessie's "contribution" to discussions where Zionist or Israeli or Palestinian pertinent issues pop up encompasses *every* facet, not only Israeli transgressions and excesses.
He's also lying. There are quite a few non-Zionists and even anti-Zionists with whom I and other defenders or supporters of certain Israeli policies and actions have held serious and honest conversations. In contrast, evil nessie perpetually makes a point of trolling and harassing in the most puerile and childish manners. The Indybay editors must remove at least a few comments from the relevant threads on a nearly daily basis due to evil nessie's puerile behavior. And don't forget he must be between 55 and 60 years old as far as I can gather.
Evil nessie's portrayal of Israel above really demonstrates to what extent he's biased and full of shit. It would be very hard to make him admit that the belligerent religious elements (for example) in Palestinian society are rabidly racist, apartheid spirited and "Crusader-colonialist".
He has repeated quite many times an exhortation to kill all Nazis, yet he has refused to include Palestinazis like Hamas in that category. Why? 'Cause they're struggling against "the Zionists". Now you see.
I blame the IMC software for my mistakes
by nessie the violent
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 04:46 PM
From Pittsburgh: "*sshole" is not sexual terminology
by the REAL nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:01 AM
for the same reason "hand" is not sexual terminology. it's not gender specific. Everybody has one.
As for "I'm my own Zionist trick," etc.
If he really expects you to believe I posted any of that, he must think you're an idiot.
But don't take it personally. You have plenty of company. There are
people all over this planet who he must think are <a href=" http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1A721BB8">idiots.
"idiots"
by nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:13 AM
Sorry about that. My bad. I forgot that the software here couldn't deal with that tag.
I recommend that the site switch over to SF Active. It's *much* better software.
Check it out:
http://sf.indymedia.org
to Critical Thinker
by nessie's nightmare
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 04:58 PM
What you and others at the Urbana link have written is true. I can vouch firsthand about nessie posting "it's me" and "it's not me", because I've caught it a couple of times. But, as you have all stated, it ignores the evidence when confronted.
And you have certainly been right about how it redefines "racist", and you can plainly see how it has redefined "asshole" to suit it's whims. Anyone else using an epithet brings nessie to post to some strange thread about homophobia and misogeny, blah blah. An ad hominem is not a rebuttal until nessie feels like using an ad hominem as a rebuttal.
One more thing - you all have been erudite and well spoken about nessie, using damning facts and logic in enviable fashion. As for myself, I just shoot straight. nessie is incredibly mentally ill, and I dare say it needs to be locked away. I find it surreal that a Nazi controls the IMC of one of the most visible cities in the USA, perhaps the world.
"My bad."
by the REAL nessie
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 04:59 PM
Yeah, right. You wish.
even more violent
by it's nightmare
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 05:07 PM
"nessie gets violent"
by nessie Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:43 AM
That's not violence. That's pixels on a screen. You want violence? Come to my house. You can have all the violence you want.
And more.
any time, bad ass
by your nightmare Thursday July 08, 2004 at 03:01 AM
Give me the street number of the dumpster, and I'll be there.
Sasha,
by Critical Thinker
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 05:11 PM
I happen to be in no position to specifically answer your question concerning whether the general public has come to consider Indymedia activists as a whole as Nazis.
What troubles me (and many other Jewish users) personally is the tolerance Indymedia editors display toward anti-Semitic propaganda featuring on their sites. That kind of racism is much more tolerated than other forms of bigotry, most notably the anti-Arab variety, at least on Indybay and SF-IMC (though evil nessie wouldn't admit it. But know that he has aided and abetted a statement by one of his Court Jews that Zionist Jews (or the Zionists) killed Jesus Christ. He generally censors only the rather blatant anti-Semitic expressions.).
Whil I believe no type of racism should be tolerated on IMCs, I'm afraid that any attempts to convince the Indybay editors to ban all facets of anti-Semitic hatred are doomed to failure, since anti-Semitism is an integral part of the totality of motivations for the crowd that posts over the Indymedia network.
I know of IMC sites that permit both anti-Arab and anti-Jewish racism, and at least one site (SF-IMC) that totally forbids anti-Arab bigotry yet allows certain forms of anti-Semitism, but I've never stumbled on an IMC site that totally censors both anti-Arab and anti-Jewish racism. These facts have lead me to conclude there's a constant which is tolerance of anti-Semitism on Indymedia.
Evil nessie would try, of course, to divert your attention and blame me that I'm tainting anti-Zionism itself as anti-Semitism or all anti-Zionists as anti-Semites, yet I don't make such automatic and sweeping linkages. Experience has taught me that while anti-Zionism itself isn't necessarily anti-Semitic, most anti-Zionists (not all) are anti-Semitic to varying degrees. I make no apology for making these assertions.
amazing
by nessie's friend
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 05:16 PM
It's just like CT said. At the moment nessie is posting to itself at Pittsburgh.
http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/14010_comment.php
Want to know what's *really* amazing?
by pointer
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 05:36 PM
Click here:
http://www.sfimc.net/news/2004/07/1698659_comment.php
Yup,
by eye witness
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 05:47 PM
that's pretty amazing, alright.
How does he *do* that?
what a fool
by nessie's nightmare
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 06:42 PM
Nessie has somehow talked his enemies into spending hours and hours of their day giving him free publicity. How does he *do* that?
Now I'm without doubt convinced nessie has the mind of a child.
*I* am the "troll" who for the last several days has had nessie the Nazi tagging along like a puppy while I posted all over the planet using it's pseudonym. I've posted in places it hasn't found yet, and likely won't unless or until I decide to tell it.
It is stark raving bonkers because it is a first magnitude control freak, and now it's out of control because it can't delete me like it can at the SF-IMC.
Let it post it's fantasy about it's the talk of the town. But of course it is. How much fun can you have yanking an idiot's chain from here to Istanbul to Melbourne to Marseille to Chile to Russia....
Yeah, it's me, nessie. Only I can name those places and then some. You can't delete me, you pathetic asswipe.
How does it feel to be a fool who chases a troll over the world because of a pseudonym? Isn't your "journalism" suffering? Looks to me like you're going to miss a deadline with whatever top shelf news organization you're a stringer for.
Maybe the East Bay Express can use you in case you get shitcanned.
Gotta go. Come fly with me, asshole.
"you pathetic asswipe"
by pointer
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 06:55 PM
Click here:
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/146731_comment.php#147502
forgery is bad
by gehrig
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 11:41 PM
Forgery is always bad, even when you're forging a paranoid buffoon like nessie. All you're doing is feeding his ego by making him believe what he's doing is somehow so important that They Are Trying To Fuck With Him.
As I've said before, there's already someone who posts nonsense all over the IMCs and signs it "nessie." There's no need for more than one.
@%<
no need?
by nessie's nightmare
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 01:47 AM
Perhaps not. I just enjoy yanking the chain of a bona fide Nazi. It's kind of like tying a dog to a bumper and putting the pedal to the metal....
Hey, nessie, how old are you, you old fart? I'm 22 years old, and have you totally devoted to me.
I'm a gun grabber. A regular badass
by nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:03 AM
>declare your names, all of them
It’s always amusing to hear somebody give me orders who is neither paying my to obey them nor pointing a gun at me from far away enough I can’t grab it. They never learn, do they?
See:
http://www.sfimc.net/news/2003/10/1653699_comment.php#1657657
"by nessie Thursday July 08, 2004 at 09:03 AM"
by the REAL nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:18 AM
I didn't post that. But I did post these:
http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/33.html
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/05/126521_comment.php#126891
trolling is always bad
by gehrig
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:26 AM
troll: "It's kind of like tying a dog to a bumper and putting the pedal to the metal.... "
It's revolting. It's not amusing to toy with anyone's mental condition, even if that condition is nessie's persecution/messiah complex, and even if his reactions are so comically self-serving in a Kinbote/Clouseau kind of way.
He doesn't need your help to look like an obsessive, paranoid fool. What's more, by pointing to your trolling, he can distract you from the defeat he just took on one of his pet fixations at the IMC network level.
Trolling is bad. Spam is bad. Forgery is bad. The way to defeat nessie is the way I did: by chopping his bogus arguments to pieces, and letting readers see that Empiror Nessie-Obsessie has no clothes.
@%<
"Spam is bad."
by Gehrig is an expert on the subject
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:33 AM
See:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y28916948
no clothes
by nessie's nightmare
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 03:27 AM
With all due respect, nessie doesn't deserve any respect. Now understand what I'm saying here, I see your point. I've never bothered anyone else like this.
But let's not forget nessie really and truly is a Brown Shirt. I will not excuse that piece of shit for its mental condition. If you'd have known of him at the time he was doing his heinous deeds, would you have dismissed Dahmer for his mental condition? Apples and oranges, yes, but you catch my drift.
You know it, and I know it - nessie would steer you to the camps if it was even so much as a 7th tier nazi, the potato peeler in the ranks. nessie is dangerous, and especially because it is the head of an IMC. Might as well consider it the editor of a Nazi rag, and many of us feel the Left has gone too far. It's why I'm rebelliong. I don't know who my friends are anymore. Anarchy is one thing, but demonizing Jews like the '30's again just to have shits and giggles is something else again.
ergo
by gehrig
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 03:32 AM
* rolling eyes *
Ah, so the new nessie slandergarten rule is, if someone is spamming using your name, then it _must_ be you. There is just no possible other explanation. Somebody spammed a (slightly altered version of a) post I made to SF-IMC, therefore I MUST be the guy who did the spamming. All other explanations violate the laws of physics.
But the laws of physics apply everywhere, so we must also conclude that whoever is spamming in nessie's name _must_ be nessie. THERE IS JUST NO POSSIBLE OTHER EXPLANATION, and similar empty nessie-obsessie-like bombast.
Shame on you, nessie-obsessie -- stop spamming! Stop trolling yourself using your own name!
And what kind of twisted thing are you playing out in public by trolling yourself and then flagellating the troll, and then then letting the troll flagellate you, and ... eccchhh!
@%<
declared names
by nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 03:48 AM
nessie_credentials2.png, image/png, 258x398
So what are you saying?
I don't blame Gehrig.
by obvious pseudonym
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 04:06 AM
If I was him, I'd be obsessed with nessie, too.
I might even spam his favorite website so he'd notice me.
Like this:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y28916948
Except I'm not Gehrig, so I have better things to do.
better things to do
by nessie the violent
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 04:16 AM
such as spam the Pittsburgh IMC with old links trying to deflect the truth that you made threats of violence to someone?
You are a violent person, perhaps even a felon, making threats across interstate lines. And you can even grab guns from people. Such a fearful dumpster dweller indeed.
nessie-obsessie slanders on
by gehrig
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 05:08 AM
nessie-obsessie: "I have better things to do."
Gee, nessie, that's stupid even by your standards. Let me remind you of the obvious: I wouldn't be here at Utah IMC defending myself against your slander if _you_ weren't here telling lies about me on an IMC I hadn't visited otherwise, and if you hadn't posted the URL of your slander on a site I _do_ read just to make sure you knew I would see that you were slandering me again.
You're a sick dude, nessie-obsessie.
Your accusation that I'm a spammer has been laughed off everywhere you've presented it, with the possible exception of that lone troll on Vancouver. Even you backpedalled away from it twice -- including once spitting, "I've never called you a spammer!" and then backpedalling away from _that_ when I produced the post in which you _had_ called me a spammer.
In other words, nessie-obsessie, it just doesn't seem to matter to you _which_ accusation you're flinging at me, as long as you're flinging an accusation, even if you know you'll only have to run away from it when your bluff is called.
It's not healthy, nessie-obsessie. It's not the sign of good mental health. You should get yourself looked at.
@%<
I'm a computer expert too
by nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 05:26 AM
nessie@sfbg.com
"idiots"
by nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 02:13 AM
Sorry about that. My bad. I forgot that the software here couldn't deal with that tag.
I recommend that the site switch over to SF Active. It's *much* better software.
Check it out:
http://sf.indymedia.org
the software couldn't handle the tag
by nessie's nightmare
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 03:20 PM
Anyone can see the instructions for how to make a
tag right underneath the reply box. Only a brain dead spammer who runs
an IMC itself and can do no wrong would blame something else. What a
child. Pee Wee Herman saying "I meant to do that". watch this Pittsburgh software work, (regardless of what a bedwetter says) by clicking here
never learn
by nessie IN THE FLESH
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 08:09 AM
nessie@sfbg.com
"It’s always amusing to hear somebody give me orders who is neither paying my to obey them nor pointing a gun at me from far away enough I can’t grab it. They never learn, do they?"
Actually, a kid pulled a water pistol on me last year. I sued it's parents for emotional damages. And I won. I have so much more emotional damage now.
FWIW, almost none of what has been
by nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 09:31 AM
writen about me here is true, and most of what has been attributed to me was written by someone else.
If any of you want to discuss any of this privately, so you'll know it's really me talking, I can be reached at:
nessie@sfbg.com
I’m going to leave now.
by nessie
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 11:10 AM
I’ve been here long enough to make my point. If you want to talk to me, don’t do it here. Use email. Anything subsequent to this that you see with my name on it is bogus. So is almost all of what you’ve already read, no matter how realistic it appears. It’s a smear campaign. These things happen. C'est la guerre. Some people apparently think I'm worth smearing. They imitate my style. Occasionally, they imitate my content, but not often. Usually they change the meaning by altering a word or two. Either way, it’s bogus.
My signature can only be trusted here:
http://sf.indymedia.org
here:
http://www.transbay.net/~nessie/
and most of here:
http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/
except for this one:
http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/14.html
Which my editor at the Bay Guardian wrote as an April Fool’s joke. I was not amused, but at least they were paying me to be not amused. The people who have been doing this lately aren’t paying me, and I’m no longer amused, so I quit.
Anything you read with my name on it, that appears anywhere else but those three sites, take with a grain of salt. If you want to know for sure about a particular case, ask me by email. Include the URL.
Thank's in advance. Sorry for any inconvenience. Have a nice day.
Salud.
for what it's worth
by nessie the violent
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 11:26 AM
Yeah, it's true. Perception is reality, and I perceive a little schizophrenic Nazi with its tail between its legs.
Now run along home and kiil some alley cats, moron.
both sides of my neck part 2
by nessie
Friday July 09, 2004 at 09:04 AM
nessie@sfbg.com
(1.) My name isn’t nessie.
(2.) But that has nothing to do with whether I can prove it. I can’t prove it. So what? That, doesn’t mean it’s not true. Personally, I don’t care whether you believe me or not. If you don’t believe me, then you’re not who I’m talking to. I’m talking people smart enough to know that when something that is inconsistent with the bulk of my writing comes signed with my name, it’s a forgery. Anybody who’s not smart enough to grasp that, wouldn’t understand what I was saying, anyway.
(3.) Besides, who it was that wrote something is irrelevant. Only content counts. If it’s true, it doesn’t matter who says it, or why. The truth is the truth, period.
(4.) Later, when you encounter something with my name on it, posted somewhere else on the internet, consider that it may be a forgery. If it is consistent with what you know I have actually written, then I wrote it. If it is not consistent, then it’s a forgery. If you can’t tell the difference, you’re too stupid to understand what I’m saying, anyway, so don’t waste time trying.
"my writing does not need proof"
by debate coach
Thursday July 08, 2004 at 03:46 AM
That's a straw man.
It's not about the writing. It's about the name.
The text has also been altered:
>(1.) My name is nessie.
This is a typical Zionist trick.
See:
http://www.sfimc.net/news/2002/12/1555696_comment.php#1692248
(snip)
. . . subtly alter it’s meaning by changing a few words, and post it . . .
(snip)
* * * * *
Zionists *have* to lie and forge because there *is* no honest defense of ethnic cleansing.
somebody change its panties
by the REAL nessie
Friday July 09, 2004 at 10:21 AM
If the content is what's important, then why should you care about a "forgery"?
And you have spammed the IMC's with that pitiful tale of woe,
where those mean widdle editors played an April Fool's joke on you. For
one thing, who cares except you? Did you need a forum to wet your
panties? Did you have to go around the world and whine and BITCH and complain about a slight?
Actually, I think you wrote it, and it's so goddamn piss poor, so
bereft of basic writing skills, that it could only be you. Even Ray
Charles couldn't miss it, ain't that right, Mr. Journalist? Or have you
switched horses and are a software consultant, you adolescent piece of
shit?
Give our regards to the missus.
I don't know who this "nessie" is
by newbie
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 03:01 AM
but with enemies like these, he must be alright.
newbie nessie
by the REAL nessie
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 03:41 AM
I posted that. I wrote that. It's a forgery, but it's my forgery. I've also posted this identical forgery at Pittsburgh and Idaho.
I must think you're all idiots. Who knows where and when I'll lie to you again?
Well, come to think of it, I really do think you're all idiots.
Speaking of the buffoon nessie's ever changing occupations
by Critical Thinker
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 11:05 PM
What d'ya know. One day he's a journalist, the next he's an anarchist, next - debate coach, and still further down the road - a historian (but not a journalist!). Don't believe me? Let the sucker himself tell you!:
""Go sniff some more glue or weed, 'journalist' nessie."
by nessie • Monday May 17, 2004 at 01:57 PM
I'm not a journalist. I'm a historian. Sometimes I focus on very recent history, that's all. Other times, I focus on the less recent past."
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/10/76594_comment.php#136064
(Ah, but he recently switched backed to journalism...or did he?)
Don't go in here!!!!!
by Warning
Sunday July 11, 2004 at 03:29 AM
It's a trap:
http://www.sfimc.net/news/2004/07/1698821_comment.php#1698897
Wendy Campbell-Stormfront member?
by Nathan
Sunday July 11, 2004 at 04:51 AM
I know the first gut response will be to roll
your eyes because of the mention of Free Republic, and the editors
might want to delete this post. I ask you to at least *consider* what's
below. If a Nazi group is looking for people sympathetic to them, why
can't they look to liberal groups just the same? Read of their tactics,
and imagine they're also here at an IMC. And ask yourself about Wendy
Campbell. Who is she? When did she appear? What are her credentials? ----------------------
Svyatoslav_Igorevich has taken a keen interest in inducing Stormfront
members to register at Free Republic. Free Republic is approximately
five times as large as Stormfront. "How do we penetrate Free Republic?" http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=136636
Over the past few years, Free Republic has gotten less and less
interesting. However, many posters and readers at Free Republic are
four square behind stopping the illegal invasion from Mexico. This is
one topic on which you will be allowed to post at Free Republic.
Free Republic does not suffer criticism of Jewry, so- if you insist on
trying to get that topic in, you'll be banned in short order. That is
certain. They will allow minority crime
stories, but don't try and headline it "Negro Rapes and Kills White
College Girl" etc., cause you'll be history. I
believe you have to be a member for a very brief while- a few days or a
week, before you can start your own threads, but you can post from the
start. A few ideas I have on registration
names: perhaps it would be wise to use names they can relate to
easily...GOPin04, WtheBEST, ConservativeGirl (take up a girl's name as
a handle- most politicos are men, and they'll appreciate it LOL),
GodBlessUSA, SupportOurBoysInIraq etc. And don't use my examples, cause
for certain, Jim Robinson and his mods will soon find out about and
read this thread. Remember. What we consider
staid, they consider radical racist. If you find a good minority on
White current crime tale- toss it right in there. Then, for good
measure- just to show you're not racist (cause some of them will say-
"You ONLY ever post black on White crime!")...well, post some White
homo principal who's been playing with his students. A digital
incursion onto Free Republic can be managed. We have the numbers, and
the abilities. But a lot of us will get knocked out as surely as if we
had been British redcoats charging in a line, if we don't be sensible
and clever. Remember these pointers before you click that mouse. And ask yourself: "Would Jim Robinson post this?"
If we meet with some successes, we can't come back to Stormfront and
say- "I am posting over at Free Republic as "RightWingChick" and here's
what I said...", cause their mods will be following our threads having
to do with the incursion. We could post threads in which we've
participated and let everyone at Free Republic and Stormfront guess,
but we simply can't name our names and expect to go undetected. Jim
Robinosn will even be looking for increases in registrations, and all
those who have registered within 30 days or so of
Svyatoslav_Igorevich's
I talk to myself
by trained opponent
Sunday July 11, 2004 at 04:03 PM
nessie@sfbg.com
nessie talks to himself
"That's a far cry from calling this story disinformation, however."
by one of the editors
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 11:22 PM
I never said it was.
>Given that this is not an isolated incident
Indeed it is not. However that is a separate issue from the veracity of this particular story.
>and given that it is corroborated by the Palestine News Network (PNN) site above,
“Corroborated” is too strong a word. It was also reported by PNN. But since
http://www.aljazeerah.info
is not credible, that makes PNN the sole source of this story. No story
reported by a single source should ever be believed unless it is
corroborated by a credible source.
Look, we have to err on
the side of caution here because we’re in a war. If this is a set up,
that comes back to haunt us later, the enemy will have won a round. The
credibility of Indymedia, and of this site in especially, and my own in
particular, is under constant attack. Lately it has been pretty
intense, though crude.
See:
http://www.sfimc.net/news/2004/07/1698659_comment.php
A set up is a lot more sophisticated. Just because some of our more
visible enemies are dumber than floorboards, doesn’t mean we don’t also
have some subtle, sophisticated, clever and in some cases trained,
opponents. We must never let our guard down.
It could be that
the current wave of attacks were never intended to succeed. It could be
that they were intended to distract our vigilance while a more subtle
attack slipped in under our radar.
Some of these guys will
attack a spelling error. They’ll even fake typos, just so they have
something to point out as one of our failings. Since they’re *that*
petty, what do you think they’d do if they caught us reporting an
anti-Zionist sounding news story that later turned out to have been
false? We’d hear about it forever. Our credibility would suffer.
Credibility is the heart, soul, and essence of journalism. If
Indymedia's content is not credible, our message will be lost for it
will fall on deaf ears.
See:
http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/hidden.php?id=1688343#1688383
So we *must* err on the side of caution. This thing smells like trap
bait. Maybe it isn’t, but we don’t have the time to find out. We’re
busy here. So why don’t you help us out a little. Track this story
down. Start by finding out who’s behind PNN, and who Muath Shrideh is.
Let us know what you find. Inquiring minds want to know.
"A set up"
by just wondering
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 11:33 PM
Have you set traps that subtle for them?
Good question.
by since you asked . . .
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 11:36 PM
We neither confirm nor deny having committed the alleged perpetration.
Better to err on the side of caution.
Caution is for wimps.
by don't be such a wimp
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 11:48 PM
Go on, take a chance. What the hell. Nothing
ventured, nothing gained. Stick your neck out. Be a man. Show us you
have what it takes. You *are* a man, right?
Not just any man, either.
by pointer
Sunday July 11, 2004 at 04:45 PM
This man:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?X6A8227C8
I'm a 55 year old bedwetter
by 55 year old bedwetter
Tuesday July 13, 2004 at 05:31 PM
nessie@sfbg.com
I'm going to save everyone the trouble of having to click on my pathetic and peurile link to "nessie's House of Bedwetting". Instead of all you voyeurs hungry to see a lobotomy in progress having to come to me, I'll bring my extreme mental illness to you.
top shelf "journalist" collects injustices
Smear campaign backfires.
by what a guy
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 11:30 PM
One of our enemies is spending hours and
hours of his day giving this website free publicity, mainly by
committing serial forgery, with a smattering of slander thrown in for
good measure.
Check it out:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1A721BB8
My current favorites are:
by just wondering
Wednesday July 07, 2004 at 11:51 PM
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/8749_comment.php#8937
and:
http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/14010_comment.php#14517
What are yours?
nessie sucks
by and that's his good side
Friday July 09, 2004 at 10:40 AM
See:
http://www.sfimc.net/news/2002/11/1546540_comment.php#1693585
Oooooh, here's a good one.
by pointer
Saturday July 10, 2004 at 08:43 AM
See:
http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/11020_comment.php
Roorbacks, black propaganda and forgeries on Indymedia.
by pointer
Sunday July 11, 2004 at 01:56 PM
See:
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The
anti-Muslim era sweeping our nation has jaundiced our senses to accept
what is clearly absurd. The response by these groups is totally
nonsensical. These students are innocent of terrorism. If anyone
thought they had something to do with anything directly or remotely
related to terrorism, those graduates would be with the rest of the
Muslims locked up and wondering why they can’t get a lawyer or see
their family.